Laura Lynne Jackson: Touching the Other Side
Laura Lynne Jackson is a psychic medium and the best selling author of The Light Between Us: Stories from Heaven. Lessons for the Living and Signs: The Secret Language of the Universe. Laura has dedicated her life and career to using her incredible gift, the ability to connect and communicate with the Other Side, to teach all of us how to tap into our intuition, access our higher self, and ultimately embrace the powerful light that burns inside of each of us.
Our conversation is both inspiring and practical as Laura guides us through exploring the connection within us. She discusses how to ask for and recognize signs from our Team of Light—her term for the rockstar assembly of our departed loved ones, guardian angels, and the divine, all of whom have congregated on the Other Side to provide us with guidance, love and connection—as well as why we should trust our pull toward connecting with others here on earth. For Laura, we exist to help our souls grow, collectively, whether here on earth or on the Other Side, and when we open ourselves up to be part of the great, eternal chain of light, we move the whole forward. Connection is a gift available for all of us to access, we must simply create the opening for it to flourish.
EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:
Signs and communicating with your Team of Light…5:40
Joining the chain of light…20:23
Reframing…42:24
Finding the right medium…51:36
MORE FROM LAURA LYNNE JACKSON:
The Light Between Us: Stories from Heaven. Lessons for the Living.
Signs: The Secret Language of the Universe
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TRANSCRIPT:
(Edited slightly for clarity.)
ELISE LOEHNEN:
Well, I owe, as you know, I think, although I feel like I probably haven't expressed enough gratitude to you over the years, but I owe so much of my faith to you, which I know is maybe a strange thing to say, but you were really the one—and I got lucky because you are probably the most incredible, living, working forensic psychic medium alive today.
LAURA LYNNE JACKSON:
My gosh, you're just like giving way too much credit because you know, I'm only a vehicle Elise, that the other side uses. So anything that you got from me was really from them. And I really think it's because of your beautiful path here, and your journey, and how many people you are leading to that understanding and helping to make those connections. We're all in it together. We're all part of that same team of light in the here and now. So I feel incredibly honored that my soul gets to know your soul this lifetime. I feel like we've known each other before, or we’re in the same soul group, but like you don't always get to connect and be with people in your soul group, each lifetime. I'm super honored.
ELISE:
Same. One of the things that I think is so stunning about your gift and the way that you bring people through, well, there are several things about it. One and this, skeptics don't really understand it, but there's like an energetic imprint in your reading where you very much feel as though you're in the presence of the person that you're actually channeling. Like you channel the subtle nuance of personality in a way that I think is incredible. And then also your thesis, there are a lot of sort of Oracle junkies in our culture. Who want to consult a psychic before they make any decision, etcetera. And I try to be very careful personally, partly through what you've taught me, which is, I like general messages to the divine and that sort of leadership. But I don't like to get a lot of personal readings because as you teach, you don't need them. The whole point of your work is to show that the other side is there, and it's our job to cultivate those relationships. And we don't need you as amazing as it is.
LAURA:
Exactly. Exactly. You know, and I think at least too, I've always known that I was here as a teacher. I happen to be a psychic medium, but I really feel my true purpose is to just show people how accessible this is to all of us and how it can just infuse your life with so much beauty, and meaning, and purpose when you open to it and access it. And so yeah, everything you're saying resonates so deeply in me because my greatest hope for everyone is that they never feel like they need to go to a psychic medium, that they realize this opening, this connection is within each and every person.
ELISE:
And I mean, you can attest, I obviously, we're friends, but I really, and I don't even actually exercise restraint, but like I really don't ask. I try to, I mean, I love you as my friend, but I think that there's danger in becoming addicted to cycles of validation and, and in a weird way, it can lead you farther away from your own intuition.
LAURA:
I think that's so true.
ELISE:
The way you teach people, even on social, even on your Instagram and the sign-sharing that people do. Every time I sort of wanna hit from the other side, I just go there and see the incredible things that people share with you. So can you talk people through, obviously you've written two beautiful books and hopefully there are more, but you know, the newest one, I think everyone needs to read The Light Between Us. It's so beautiful. Particularly parents who have lost children, it's such a stunning read and pet parents. And I mean, you really go through it all, but can you talk people through sort of the ways that the other side thumb signs and communicates with us?
LAURA:
You know, so The Light Between Us, my first book, it was explaining how it works and giving examples and showing people that they have this within themselves. But I feel like Signs is really like a workshop book, which is gonna help people understand like how they can receive signs and messages and open this language, this beautiful, magical language of connection with their team of light on the other side. And team of light is really a term that I've come up with to explain what I'm shown about what each one of us has accessible to us at all times, which is God energy. You know, this force of love that we're all connected by is part of us. Like we're all connected to the same part of that same beautiful whole right. We can access that and call upon that for guidance.
We also have our own spirit guides, which throughout time in history, different religions have referred to as guardian angels, really advanced souls who are our teacher or mentors on the other side. And they can also speak to us in different ways, and send us signs and messages to help guide us on our highest path to help reframe things for us. When we get stuck in like a certain way of thinking about our lives, that is definitely not accurate, but we may think is accurate at the time. And it's usually very negative. And then we have anybody we love who's crossed. Who's accessible to us. Who's watching over to us, who's guiding us, who can also send us signs and including pets. Anyone, anything we've ever loved becomes part of that great chain of light and connection for us and is accessible to help guide us and love us.
So I'm all about like concrete evidence. You know, I think what I share with others is what I embrace myself, which is, well, this is all beautiful. And I want this guidance, but I want it to come in a concrete way. And the here and now, you know, right now, we’re spiritual beings in physical bodies is in this materialistic paradigm of a world. And what I guarantee you is if your soul is in your body, here on earth, you are needed and you are powerful in ways you cannot even fathom. Every thought you have, every choice you make has this grand ripple effect in ways that you can't perceive, but are real, goes out there in the world, affects other people's journeys. It's why, how we embrace our own light energy, how we embrace our own spiritual path here matters greatly.
It is a great gift to be here. It's an honor to be here right now. And sometimes you're part of someone else's lesson. Sometimes somebody is teaching you a lesson and there's no real guidebook we can go reference. Like on such and such a day on such and such a year, I'm gonna be going through this lesson. So you really have to tune in to your higher self. To that spiritual self, to that knowing. But I love to call upon my team of light. And I love to teach people how to call upon them for guidance. Because some days we just need a little hug from the other side, we need a thumbs up. We need a you're doing great, keep going, rooting you on. Or we need guidance of like, yes, this is your highest path. Don't be afraid.
Make that change, make that shift. But we just wanna know they're around on days that we're celebrating birthdays, or anniversaries, or that we're feeling really bereft because we're missing the physical kind of connection of our loved ones. Maybe their crossing date or their birthday, and they're not physically here. We want to know that they're still present. And so creating a language with the other side can be this wonderful tool just to get evidence of that and to get reassurance of that, and also to feel that love and connection. It's there for us and it's so beautiful to open to it. You knows. I ask people to create a language that’s very concrete and very unique. I think a lot of people before they understand how to create a language, they just say to their loved ones or their team of light on the other side, send me a sign and they just leave it totally open-ended.
And I think, you know, that's awesome. That's a starting point. And that's a great starting point because here you are, you're open to it. But you can fine tune it so beautifully and you can challenge your loved ones on the other side, your team of light on the other side to send you really specific signs and messages. And I think to get our attention, a lot of times they'll mess with electrical devices. We know that they love to change the words when we're typing, like pay really careful attention to what words change to, they kind of send us messages that way. They put points in our path. A lot of times they'll put creatures in our path that navigate the world using electromagnetic fields like birds, butterflies, dragonflies, ladybugs, deer, you can kind of Google any animal that navigates this earth through electromagnetic field and you can pretty much guarantee your, your team of light is sending you some of those just to get your attention. But I think creating a language is so wonderful. One of my favorite things is to hear people's stories of connection, you know, and some people get very creative. I had one person write me, I was thinking of making a career change. So I ask my loved ones on the other side to send me a dragon, if it was a no and a rainbow, if it was a yes and I got the rainbow. They’re very creative. Like almost like a yes, no system, too. What I am clear on is that we do have free will here and that trumps everything, right? So there will be some moments, I think, where our team of light can give us encouragement and help guide us, but not give us the answers.
And I think if you get to a moment like that, too, it's really important to reflect that this is probably a bit of a soul test for your soul that you're trying to master in terms of choosing a fear path, or a love path.And trusting in that love path, always, that will always take you on your highest journey here as a spiritual being. So creating a language can really transform not only your life, but lives around you, because the choices you make and how you are embracing your own journey affects countless others.
ELISE:
So beautiful that idea that everyone really matters and everyone's life has meaning.
LAURA:
More than we can even understand.
ELISE:
Can you talk a little bit about, well, I wanna go in a lot of different directions, but just to double click on that, and this idea of free will, my sense from Peter who I certainly ask for help. So when I try to ask the people who have passed for help in the ways that they know that they were exceptionally gifted in real life. But my sense too, is that he's doing other things that there, he has a life as it were on the other side. What's your sense of, do you have any understanding of what's happening, quote unquote, over there?
LAURA:
Yeah, you know, it's really interesting. Because when I read, I go very close to what I call the veil. And they come very close to, so it's almost like this meeting room I go into on my screen and I read, and I can kind of feel and glance everything that's on the other side as I'm connecting with it. But it's almost like we're speaking through a screen, right? Not a glass that's solid, but a screen where you can see. But I know I can't go there and go experience myself right now. I can only hear what they're sharing with me, and gather information that way. You know, there have been many beautiful things that they've told me because when we cross, you know, this idea of rest in peace, they are. The other side is a place of love, and connection, and peace.
And from what they share with me, it's this feeling of love that is so complete, that you realize how connected you are to everything, and how divine, and how there's divinity in everything. Like how everything in some way makes sense. And it's all about love, right? But when our souls leave our physical bodies, this earth is really just a school. And it's a really fast-paced, intense school. And we come here because we are invested in helping each other grow, and shift, and change. And this is one of the ways we can experience that. But when our souls cross back to the other side, and the other side, let's not forget is right here with us. It's like the other side of the sheet of paper. But all those souls are still very invested in our journeys here, and rooting us on, and helping us think about, like if you were on a team, let's say like a soccer team, right.
Football for those in the UK and, and abroad. But, and you were on the sidelines, right? Because you got pulled out, but you are rooting your team members on and you are cheering them on, and you're projecting your energy. And you're saying, oh, run to the right. Run to the left. Because you see a better picture than maybe they can when they're out there on the field, or you just wanna share your energy that way. That's what our loved ones do for us. They're still very invested in the journeys here. Some beautiful things I've heard from individuals on the other side is, I've had children come through who have crossed through violence, like being shot, for one example. He came through so proud, this young boy, sharing that he and his mother who was here on earth were working on legislation to change and help save lives and prevent more deaths here, through gun laws.
And the mother validated that. I've had children tell me that one of their roles there is crossing animals that are dying by greeting them, you know, and feeling that love. A lot of people who have crossed through suicide share with me that they're working very hard to heal their family members here, to help their family members here know that it was no fault of their own to release guilt that they might be carrying, and to also help them work towards helping mental health awareness here and so forth. There seem to be so many different ways we can engage in helping our spirits, our souls grow collectively, right. Whether we're here on earth or we're on the other side. So there are definitely jobs if you will, in that sense, but I think it's really up to our souls and what we feel pulled to do when we're on the other side.
What I know is that no one is alone. There's no sense of isolation, or sadness, or disconnection that I think at times we mistakenly feel here because we get very stuck in the fact that we're in these physical bodies. And sometimes we're physically isolated, or sometimes I think some of us are so distanced from our own truths and our own inner voice, our own inner wisdom, that we get very confused on our life path. And then we feel spiritually distanced from being connected to this great fabric and grid of light that's here. So I think the answer, for all of us here on earth, is to go deep within, to access our highest path, our true purpose, the connection that's always there. And we can really call upon those on the other side to help us do that because they're still working with us, and for us. I've also had scientists on the other side, come through telling me they were working with certain scientists here who were centuries apart or never met.
But it seems to me like there is what, you know, you brought up before what Peter was good at here. You ask them to help you with there. It seems to be a thing like the talents we had when we were here, we still are very inclined to help people here with what we were good at when we're there. We still channel down and we help people. When we talk about art and artists creating, there's always a spiritual team of light helping to inspire, helping to create. Because I think art is what heals our world. And I think all artists are vehicles to share that light, to share that connection, to share those lessons, to help people experience in a way other than words or materialistic things. To access this kind of energy or this understanding. So I know there are many souls on the other side who work as a team of light with artists here. It's very beautiful. I don't think there's any end to what we can do when we're there, but those are just some of the rules that I've heard of. I think there are certain teams that inspire people here. Like in really beautiful ways to help humanity. So it's this great chain of light.
ELISE:
It’s so beautiful. And that idea that nobody is alone, because I know so many of us can feel isolated, lonely, detached, separated here. But this idea that not only, you know, I think about parents who have lost children, which is, I know you work a lot with kids, like how the complete devastation, and the small comfort, but the comfort nonetheless of thinking, oh my God, there are people, they are with people. They are with ancestors. They are with animals, you know that like my pet Dot isn't wandering around somewhere alone. There's so much comfort if people allow themselves to go there, there's so much comfort in that idea. And the idea of co-creation, you know, I certainly feel that way. I feel more often than not when I'm really working, or writing, or my book, for example, it's completely a co-creative effort. I don't know where, I mean, I don't know where it's coming from, but it's that partnership with the divine that I feel. Rob, sometimes I'll be writing, and working, and I'll be like looking at him and almost talking to him simultaneously. And he's like,
LAURA:
How are you doing it? You're like this is going through me.
ELISE:
Just doing some automatic writing babe. And having a conversation with you. I know, I know scientifically that people can't really multitask. Do you need to open to that co-creation in order to really harness it or is it just defacto part of anything that that comes through?
LAURA:
Do you mean, when you say you, do you mean me personally or like the world at large?
ELISE:
One, one in general?
LAURA:
I think it's always there for the taking. And if you don't purposely direct your energy and say to your team of light, like I'm open and ready to be used as a vehicle of love and healing in this world, however I can best be used. They're still gonna come through, but it makes it so much more fluid and easier. If you make a declaration of energy, where you say, I'm all in, I'm ready to receive. Use me, guide me, because then it really flows through, but they'll still get to you no matter what. You'll get downloads, you know, at all different, I call it a download, right. It's just like sudden and it comes to you and through you. You'll still get it. But I think if we each take a moment to declare to our team of light energetically that we wanna do that. We want to be part of this beautiful chain of light that is healing and helps people rise together. I think it becomes even more accessible to us in beautiful and surprising ways. You know, in ways we might not have scripted or thought like, this is how it's going to translate in my life, how I'm going to be used as a vehicle of that. It might even surprise. There might be moments of surprise for us where we realized suddenly like, oh, that stranger, I just had that conversation with that felt like very light, it felt like it had a deeper purpose. Like it resonates within us sometimes. And you know, I think the times that we feel isolated here, the way to completely break that, and remind us of our connection is any act of kindness that you do for somebody else, like any act of service, whether that's like, you know, this might sound silly, but like putting a $5 bill on the ground and leaving it for someone to find like, think about that moment of like, oh, look what I felt like the joy is somebody's going to have finding that, like look what just came into my life.
Or just doing anything kind for anyone. Like somebody wants to go in front of you in traffic, waving them in, just feel what that feels like. Or calling somebody who you think might be a little lonely, maybe they're elderly, reach out. That's always how we break this isolation is through doing for others. It's like being reminded of that. I think it reminds our soul how we're part of each other's journey is. And we couldn't separate from that if we tried.
ELISE:
Yeah. And I feel like you've written too about sometimes the random intervention or comment at the grocery store, like where you're like, I guess I'm gonna compliment this woman's earrings, even if maybe they're so unappealing. And then you find out that they were a gift from that person's mother and it's her birthday. Like the way that we can also participate with each other in these affirming moments.
LAURA:
Trust the pull with that. Like I think sometimes we get like, I feel this pull to say this, or do this. And then we're like, no I can't do that. But we should, we're all here to connect and to be part of each other's journeys. And I can't tell you how many times I get messages from people saying this was the sign I asked for and it was delivered through my child, or my friend, or a stranger who said this to me or suddenly showed this to me. I think the other side uses all of us in these divine ways. So if we're walking along one day and we suddenly feel compelled to share something with a stranger or say something that's most likely the other side at work, trying to use us as a vehicle for healing and love and light and connection.
But we have the free will to shut it down and be like, no, I can't do that. I'm not gonna say that, you're not gonna trust my pull. I'm not gonna trust my intuition. I'm only gonna stay grounded in this materialistic world. Then we lose out. So it's about trusting the light within us all, trusting the knowings, trusting what I call the pulls of connection. It can really change your life in magical ways. And because I think when you have those moments, you realize that's happened for you as well.
ELISE:
I don't know that we've ever talked about this and, and I want to stay with the light, but are there dark energies? Like, are there distortions, or pulls, that can also come through or not so much?
LAURA:
What do you mean by come through?
ELISE:
Or get attached to us? What are your feeling about negative energies or like old karmic bonds—does that exist?
LAURA:
So the first thing I wanna say is that even in the darkness, there's light. That's what I know. No matter what we experience or what happens here. Do really terrible things happen here? Are there forces of negativity that exists here on this earth plane? A hundred percent? I think the main reason for that is we get very confused here on earth. Sometimes some of us get confused with what true power is right, is true power having power over someone, whether it's physical power over somebody, or more money than somebody, or cheating somebody out of something. So we can do better, whether it's our ego is gonna be better known or we're gonna have a financial reward by doing it, or like we wanna physically assault somebody so we can feel physically powerful, right? Those are all false senses of power.
And they're all fed by like fear energy, right? I'm afraid that I'm not going to be more powerful than somebody. So I'm gonna go do these things. I'm going to invade this country because I wanna have more power. I'm going to eliminate or try to eliminate all these people, or I'm going to be negative about this whole group of people, because it makes me feel more powerful to be that way. Those are all false senses of power. And it leads to very, very dark and sad things. True power is the power we have to find the gifts we came here with, share them with others, and then help others find their gifts, share that with the world. And we all rise together. It's like, you know, the phrase where like the tide comes in and all boats rise, like that's what we're really here for.
So do do negative things exist? Yes. Can people throw negative energy at you? Absolutely. And for me, for one, in a very simple way, if somebody gives me a dirty look because they're having a bad day and I happen to be online behind them, I'm gonna feel it. And it's gonna feel like an energetic punch to my gut, but what I've learned to do, and I think what we can all learn to do is try not to negatively reactive. And this is the real challenge sometimes, but it's the first step of that is becoming aware that you've just received negative energy. And then having this very quick moment of choice of what are you gonna do without you gonna throw it back, like to the same person, to somebody else, are you gonna let that energy go into you and like affect you and be negative?
Or are you gonna be afraid of that energy? Or are you gonna recognize that it's there and then kind of picture it rising out of your solar plexus, going out to outer space and exploding where it can harm nobody. Like that's what I choose to do with it. Like energy is very, very real. It's the only truth of our existence, right? We're not really solid beings on these chairs that are solid. Like we're just fast vibrating atoms. And the only truth is energy. And the truth of energy is that we are light energy. Like we literally glow in the dark. When you get down to like the scientific research that's being done, we give off bio-photons, all living things do, it's like a language between all of us. It's a language of light. It's our soul energy. So when we understand the basis of all things and what energy is, we can choose to release negative energy in certain ways.
Now, when we get down to like a very fundamental level, like very dark things that happen, like people who are murdered, you know, by strangers or like even felt like, how does this, how can this ever make sense? I think that through the darkness, there is always light, and collectively as humanity, we learn through that. So you can't look at just the one person whose life was negatively affected. You have to look at that one person as part of this great whole, and what we're learning overall. It's like when something terrible happens too, you see so much love being directed at the people who are recipients of that. That's why we're here. We're here to care for one another, to help support one another, and to love one another. And it can get really tricky. I think when very dark things happen, you know, school shootings, like how does this make sense?
Like how can this ever make sense? These innocent children being slaughtered. And I think, it won't make sense to us in the hearing now, right? In this kind of monkey brain in this materialistic world. But I can only share what children on the other side have shared with me, which is that we're all invested in each other's journeys and we need to make different choices here to protect each other, and love each other, and be focused on that. Because when you think about even guns, what are guns, they're power over. They're not power to help rise. And, you know, I think that we need to collectively come to an understanding about that as humanity, or we're just gonna keep repeating lessons. And I think a lot of that is what we see going on right now in the world, we see old lessons being brought up to the surface again, kind of like if there was mud at the bottom of a lake and it gets kicked up.
But why I think we're actually coming into a really powerful time where we're ready to examine beliefs, ways of being that no longer serve us and discard them and move beyond them. I have had a sense for a while now that we are in a time of great reckoning. And I do not say that lightly, because reckoning is serious. We're having a reckoning and I'm starting to see it play out, but so far, we've only seen a lot of the negative and the darkness. We're in for a rough two and a half years collectively as humanity because all these old belief systems, all these power over angry, fearful, dark ways of possessing energy and being, it's time to let them go. And we are all learning a hard way going through that. But it's so important to have an awareness that even in the dark, there is great light. We are in these really powerful light-filled times right now. And it's so important to focus on the change and the shift that needs to happen and really put all our energy behind that and help that to happen, help facilitate that and help facilitate in a loving way, but in a powerful way too. I think it's an interesting thing you're bringing up, especially in the current times we're living in.
ELISE:
No, and I think you're so right. I mean, reckoning is accurate and what also seems to be happening in a really powerful way. And I feel like we're in sort of a kick turn, or this emergence of all of the ways that we've relied on systems and structures and external authorities to tell us how to be. And we're watching that, not protect us, or the failures that have been built into those systems becoming quite evident. And it seems too, as you mentioned where all these biosphere, like we each have our light that there's this awakening happening as people are recognizing, oh, I matter, like my life here has meaning and this is a co-creative exercise of leaning in, and it requires each of us to do the work. There's no more complacency. There's no more being governed, being ruled, being told how to be. It is now on all of us that sovereignty, it's incumbent on each of us to pick that back up and grow it.
LAURA:
You know, that's your light power. And we always have that accessible to us, but some people don't understand that we have that within us, and we need to take ownership of that, and we need to choose our highest path because we're all part of this collective whole. When we make choices for ourselves, and we are kind to ourselves, and we are critical thinkers where we examine things and we question things and we find our truths, and we honor that. We're elevating everything. And one thing I want to share too, when I do workshops on manifesting, I think there are two steps that usually when people are taught to manifest, they completely miss that my guides have shown me are so important and I almost call them like, pre-steps right. And it's the purge and balance step. So what I typically will have people do is take a moment for us to just like take a piece of paper and a pen and just, you can do this on the keyboard too.
And anybody viewing this can do this within your own lives too. But you can imagine what this would be like for our society to do as well. And write a list of every negative thing you can think of, like every negative message, anything that you hear. And you'll hear and it come out and then you examine it. And you're like, I don't believe in any of these things. This is not my highest, this is not true. This is very negative thought patterns. This is very dark, bad, negative energy and reject it. Like realize like, I don't believe in these things. This is not, this is not the truth for me, but yet the messaging is there. I feel like we're having this reckoning globally, right. Where we're going, wait a minute. Here's what messages we've been getting. Let's examine those. And then let's reject them.
Like the purge has to happen first. Those negative messages have to rise to the surface first or we can't recognize them, reject them, and then the next step is balancing. Like bringing in the light, connecting with things greater than yourself, whether it be art, or music, or having some sort of ritual to embrace and honor the fact that you are a light being, and it's time to step in and take ownership of your life. That's the first two steps to manifesting. And then we open and we have thought, and we have vision. And there's so many more steps after that. But I think it's the purge and the balance that we're in right now. And that's not a bad place to be. It's actually really important.
ELISE:
Yet, a lot of work.
LAURA:
So, so much work.
ELISE:
Can I ask you a crazy question? Can we talk a bit about when the soul comes into the body and I've heard over the years, various sort of people who have miscarried, or chose not to carry a baby? Like when is, when do we come into, when do we incarnate in the womb?
LAURA:
So that's such a great question. I think what you're really asking is when is our soul tied to the physical body that comes here into the world. So I can share with you what the other side has shown me. We're all part of different soul groups. And a lot of times we can recognize individuals in our soul group, whether they're family members, or in our soul group. But a lot of times strangers we meet who become friends or you just resonate with people. And you're like, I feel like my soul knows your soul because it does—because you're part of the same soul group, but there will be different soul group members that may or may not choose to physically and fully incarnate this lifetime here. So almost like I'm on the sub team if you need me, or I'm meant to play a certain role in your life. So that soul group on the other side is always connected. We have our own like spiritual groups. And when we really get down to it, this whole existence is really just a virtual reality that our souls are beamed into these physical bodies. But our soul essence, like who we really are, the light of our being is always on the other side, safe and sound. And if you've ever done virtual reality where you put on the goggles—I feel like my guides had me do that once so that I could be like, this is exactly what earth it was like, this is you thinking you're really experiencing it. And you are in that materialistic physical way, but your soul is always safe on the other side.
And any lifetime you've ever had, any incarnation you've ever had, it's really happening simultaneously and you're linked to it. So you're having this experience here. So when does this soul attach into the body? It's with the first breath. So when a child is born and when each one of us were born, that moment we took our first breath. That's the on button. We're completely attached at that moment. Prior to that, we're still attached, but it's this cord of light. This cord of connection. We're not really fully in our physical beings. It's almost like if you were a deep sea diver and you were on the craft and you've got all your stuff on, but you haven't gone underwater yet. And then the moment you jump off the boat and go under, that's coming here.
Now we're attached. So it's that moment we take the first breath, which is also why, when we feel really frenetic, when we feel really overwhelmed in our physicality and the physical experience. If you do breath work, it will always realign your soul with your physical body. It will always get you grounded in your own light. And you know, it's very interesting because physiologically too, when you do studies of people just doing some deep breathing, it changes your body chemistry. It changes all these things. So just to be reminded of that. So like a lot of times, souls on the other side will talk about the fact that they weren't ever supposed to fully physically be here on earth, but they were supposed to be connected spiritually to that cord of their body developing in their mother's womb. Because they were either meant to be a moment on that person's path, or maybe many people's path involved in that pregnancy.
Just to teach a lesson, or help someone declare like their free will or their choices here. It's always about love in some way, whatever facet of a lesson in love that individual is meant to learn. It's about that. So babies who arrived stillborn, they tell me like they didn't suffer and that their soul is part of their family's soul group. And that usually it's that their soul just needed to feel that unconditional love. And that was everything. Like that was the whole lesson for their soul. It's very healing on the other side, and that they're very much watching over and part of that family. Sometimes, souls on the other side, who maybe if there was, a miscarriage, an abortion, a still birth, they’ll circle back like years later in another human body within the same family.
So there seems to be different choices or different paths, the design in a divine sense that I don't think we can understand when we're here. But what I do know is that it's so important for us to always focus on whatever lesson, about love. We were meant to learn from that, whether it was self-love and our own empowerment, or unconditional love, or just a surrender, having love but surrendering to the other side, that there is some sort of divine path connecting us all and guiding our own journeys, no matter how chaotic or confusing they may seem. There is always this light and force of love, guiding us, helping our souls learn the lessons we need to master, or we've agreed to explore, or whatever it might be. Trusting in that I think is so fundamental to understanding the spark of connection between you and everything.
ELISE:
I've heard, I feel like maybe you told me this, but can you confirm or deny that sometimes animals, the soul or spirit of an animal it's just lighter. It's like more of an angel. Like maybe they are not dense enough, not intended for humanity, but intended to be here with us. And that it's a way for them to experience this realm before they head home.
LAURA:
I think animals are here so often to teach us unconditional love. You know, I think a lot of times people have a really hard time feeling unconditional love for humanity, but for animals like dogs, they're like, oh yeah. It teaches us lessons in love, in divine love, and animals love us unconditionally. Like we can be having the crankiest, worst day and they're still gonna love us. You know what I mean? Beaming us with that sense of love. It reminds us who we are at our core. Like nobody is too dark or too broken, no matter what you've done here, nobody is ever disconnected from their light, their capacity to love their, their divine connection to their higher self, to God energy, to this force of love, to all people.
It's just a simple shift or choice we can make to re-access that. And I think sometimes people get so stuck on their paths, or so confused, or they're carrying around all this guilt, or his burden, these things that belong to them that it's really important for them to take a moment and recognize there's an inner connection, an inner spiritual life that's going on at all times that is always accessible to them. And it can always be called upon to help guide them and help them navigate sometimes very difficult situations here.
ELISE:
Have you done any amazing readings lately or anything that sort of sticks in your mind as an evolution on what you already have heard or known?
LAURA:
You know, I think there is never any reading I do that doesn't amaze me, and doesn't teach me something. Readings to me are just such intimate things that I don't typically share what comes through unless I have someone's permission or they share it. But I can tell you, one of the things I love most of all that oftentimes happens in readings is somebody's loved one on the other side will bring up a situation that's either going on in their life now, or has gone on in the past. And they'll reframe it. This is what that was about. This is what you were mastering then. I think sometimes we end up missing the big spiritual picture. We get caught up in like the here and now, or like what somebody's doing to kind of steal our money or our light, or like be on fair to us and be on just to us. And I think maybe sometimes it's really important to take a big step back and recognize what beauty, what kindness might have been brought into our path because of that situation. And I think it really just helps us navigate our life path in different ways or look back on it and see the spiritual light connection and like the spiritual meaning in it and how it shifted and what it taught our soul in a beautiful way. Right. And maybe it wasn't around about the person we were focused on.
It was about something totally different. I think it can really transform the stories we're telling ourselves about what we're doing and what we're achieving here. I think a lot of us had very inaccurate views of whether our life or our path or a situation has been a success or a failure. We look at who showed up for us? What do we learn about ourselves? What do we learn about releasing negative energy and not giving it our energy. And not carrying it with us. So there are always lessons in everything we're going through.
ELISE:
Yeah. And it's such a human tendency too. And I certainly felt this about my life. Like you really need the long view and the perspective to look back and recognize the gifts of darkness sometimes, or hard moments or hard things, things that you would never have asked for or wanted. But then to recognize the gifts that they also bring, or the way that your life has changed as a result. No one would choose those things in the moment.
LAURA:
Right. Exactly. You know, and what you're bringing up, i's so important. Really the word reflection. I think is like a and a lot of times we'll have those moments when we write, it's why people talk about the importance of journaling. I spent almost 20 years in our high school English classroom. And one of the things I would do every year at the end of the year with my students, I would have them write a year end reflection. And in that reflection, they would examine the books we read, the themes they learned, the poetry we explored, the writing they did creatively, and memoir writing. And we would talk about the journey they were on that year. But we were really talking about their spiritual journey. I might have been in a room with four walls and we might have been talking about literature and what they had read, but it was really a reflecting spiritually.
How did they grow that year? What affected them? What lit them up? And they would come away with the most incredible insights, you know? And I think unless you are being told by a teacher in a class and you need to write this for a year-end grade and complete your course, many of us skip that step. And, oh my goodness, are we cheating ourselves. Because it's so hard in this frenetic paced world to take a moment to sit down quietly with ourselves and reflect and have that moment. And you can reflect as far back as you want, you can reflect to when you were like four-years-old, you can reflect to something that happened four years ago, whatever it might be, what you need to trust is that your team of light's gonna work with you to help show you, help you reflect, help you understand things in a new way, and it can be freeing and it can be transformational. You know, you can walk away from that moment of reflection, having a whole new understanding and outlook and seeing the meaning that before you couldn't see before, you know, it's magical. It truly is.
ELISE:
I love the fact that you're a teacher, or were a teacher, never stops delighting me. And you obviously tell that story in The Light Between Us, and you also explain how you read, or the way that information comes to you and how you diagram it on your chalkboard, which is so lovely. And the thing that I think is extra powerful about your book, at least for me, it was an unlock, is that the work that you put into your skill and your ability to read accurately. And that you're effectively playing this game of charades, but the reading is really only as good as the person who can interpret through that screen. And so often people come to me and maybe they've had a bad experience with a psychic. People have, it's a spectrum of skill, right. And it's not that people are, are mal-intended. They just might not have particularly developed intuitive abilities. But it's an ability that we all have.
Also when people read or listen to a reading, skeptics can like grade every single thing, looking for any excuse to reject wholesale, whatever was said. But when people are, because obviously you don't really read for people, they can access you through teaching, classes, books. But I don't know is your wait list two decades long? How should people think about that, if they need that initial reading to really feel connected?
LAURA:
You know, I think readings can be beautiful doorways into one's own abilities, and I'm not discounting how powerful a session can be. But what I am seeing is like, there are a few set readers, right? And so many people who want to access this connection, that while a reading can be a vehicle to do that, it should really just be the sort of a larger conversation you're having with your own team of life. So there's a couple things I want to address that you said, the first thing you said is that skeptics will go through a reading looking to like discount everything. You know, I had this really interesting conversation. I did something called the Explorer Series during lockdown, and I was in discussion with different people and one of them was a man named Dr. Bill Bengston, who does research. You know him, right?
ELISE:
Yes.
LAURA:
And he did the most fascinating thing to me. He said he would always go to like skeptic conventions, he'd be invited. And he'd show up and everybody couldn't believe he'd show up. And the very first thing he would say to them is like, I actually am the only true skeptic in the room. You are all close-minded believers. And it was so powerful because what he said is a true skeptic questions. They're a critical thinker. They don't have a set decision made, maybe raise an eyebrow, say, let me really look into that. But they don't go in thinking, let me discredit everything, because this cannot be real. And I've heard this theme so much through all the academic researchers I've spoken to who are doing research in this field. They say it's so taboo and other academics don't want to hear about it.
I did another interview discussion with Dr. Dean Raden. He worked at the Princeton lab when they were exploring psi theory and all that. And he had this incredible data that just blew the materialistic paradigm to smithereens. And he was so excited to show it to the physics department. And he literally knocked on their door cause they were four doors down. And he is like, you have to see this data. And they said, we don't want to see it because it can't be true. Slammed the door shut. Wouldn't even look at the data because it's so taboo. And the belief is that can't be, so I'm not even going to entertain that thought. That is close-mindedness, that's not skepticism. So I just want to address that first.
Right. But second of all, the fact that there are a lot of practitioners out there, you know, saying, come to me, I'm going to help you connect. I'm a psychic medium. One thing that really upsets me in this field is a lack of credentials one needs, right? You look at any career, any profession, anything, we spend our energy on in the here and now in the United States. And you have to get tested for that. You have to show that you can do what you say you're doing. You have to come at it in a very logical way and show proficiency. And I feel like our world is just totally dismissing the field of like psy, and psychic abilities, and mediumship as we don't wanna even look at it. So we're not going to form any sort of panel that would make you prove you can do this before you go practice it.
So I think it can be very dangerous. I also think that there are very vulnerable people sometimes who have had a great loss and are desperate to figure out how to make that connection, and wanting evidence. And I totally understand that, but I think that it could be a dangerous field to dive into unless you know where to look, and this is why I love the Forever Family Foundation who was formed by Bob and Fran Ginsburg who lost their daughter. And they wanted to find reputable, proficient mediums that they could test, who could do what they say they're doing, and also who were in it for the right reasons. Anybody who does any events for Forever Family Foundation, any mediums, we do it completely voluntarily. We do it for free, we just show up and do it because we want to help people in grief.
So I think any of the Forever Family Foundation mediums who are in private practice outside of what they do for the foundation they've been tested and they are legitimate. So I'd say like, look there, I'm also Windbridge Research medium. So with Forever Family, you know, it's like I dive in to help people in grief with Windbridge, I’m very committed to donating my time to be tested and trying to figure out how this works for me. So we can all access it more and have that connection in our own lives, and also give credibility to this field. Because it's very real. These things are very real. And so looking at Windbridge Mediums, you know, can there be mediums out there who are not Windbridge certified or Forever Family Foundation certified? Absolutely. A hundred percent. What I always say is trust recommendations, like your team of light will help get you to the right person, just through somebody telling you about them.
Trust your own intuition, too. And if not, just go to Forever Family Foundation or Windbridge, because those mediums have been tested under all different types of blinded conditions to show not only can they do what they say they can do, but they're doing it at a very proficient level, because I think, you know, a lot of this is like this emotional language of symbolism and psychic trades that we have to very rapidly interpret what it means for the person. And you can understand things could get mistranslated and there's a great responsibility there to me, reading for somebody is such an intimate thing. I hold it sacred. It’s such a powerful thing that I think we all in the field need to approach it that way. And we also need to, and I don't know what other mediums do, but I can only do between three and five, readings a week, which is also to address your other question, why my waitlist was closed because I've never advertised.
Whoever was meant to find me would through word of mouth. But when my first book came out, it just grew to a 10 year wait list in four months or something. And I had to shut it down and I slowly I’m trying to make my way through that, and deal with all my regular client base that was rather extensive at the same time. But I feel like there are some very truly gifted psychic mediums out there. And if you listen to other people's experiences, I think that you will be led to the right people in the right times. I think reading books on the topic can help inform you, Robert Ginsburg who runs Forever Family Foundation wrote a great book.
I think it's called A Medium Explosion it's available on Amazon and everywhere, which teaches people what they should be looking for. If they're gonna go for a reading, what they should and shouldn't say, that they shouldn't have to give any information. Things of that nature, I think can be really helpful. But I think the greatest thing I want each and every person to do is to know, and to actually practice in their own ways. While a reading can certainly be this instant doorway to the other side, nobody needs a reading. We have that within ourselves. And I'm gonna promise you your loved ones, your team of light on the other side, they're not looking for a medium to connect. Their number one choice is to go directly to you by creating a language of signs, and messages, and letting you feel them around helping guide you directly. They'll come through for sure to help facilitate that.
But they always wanna go to you first. So opening to that and trusting in that can be really beautiful, and really opening to your own abilities will help open you to the other side. So maybe looking for workshops that will help develop your abilities or going online and watching lectures or discussions about that topic. Looking at places that explore those ideas, research places can be really wonderful. I have a lot linked on my website, different places. People can explore reputable places that I really think are great resources. You know, the Rhine Institute in North Carolina is phenomenal. They run courses online and it's all research and scientific and helping people open their abilities remotely, anywhere in the world. I think when we can go on our own journeys to understand, I do think we need to be thoughtful and careful, and we should listen to recommendations and we should look for people that maybe have pushed themselves a little bit extra to gain more understanding or more credibility in what they're doing.
ELISE:
And then stay open to the signs. Yesterday, a hummingbird flew into my house.
LAURA:
I mean, that is like a really big in your face. Obvious, amazing sign. I feel like that was planned. Because we were going to talk today.
ELISE:
I very gently caught it; it actually a stunning experience because I managed to sort of get the bird in my hands and release it outside. I’ve never been so close to a hummingbird.
LAURA:
That’s Disney princess level magical right there.
ELISE:
All because of you, Laura.
LAURA:
No, it's not. It's all because of you and I, I really don't like when people give away their energy or credit like that, like at least you are open to the other side, you are this connection of light with all these things. And I feel like when something like that, when a hummingbird shows up for you and lets you hold it, that's sacred, that's magical. And having that moment and recognizing like that's all done by energy. And like it's also like almost announcing and reminding you of who you are as a spiritual light being. It's a blessing in your life. It's so beautiful. Don't ever give that away. Like you've done that. You've created that stream of light opening. You've said I'm open to it. And I can experience that. You know, I might have been somebody along the way who helped teach you how to do it or point you in the right direction.
But that doesn't come from me. So whenever I do a reading and people are like, this was so amazed, I'm it doesn't come from me. That's your loved ones on the other side, I'm just the telephone. You know, I think we shift credit sometimes. It's you, and it's your connection to the other side. And I'm the third party. So I think owning that and celebrating that part of yourself leads too. Like I was open that hummingbird came to me and what a blessing that was. And I'm always going to hold that like energetic moment of connection on my path and journey forward. But it's like this like beautiful, like sparkle from the universe reminding you of who you are as a light being.
ELISE:
Well, you're a beautiful telephone. I just wanna tell you that.
LAURA:
Thank you. It's such an honor for me. I think that doing this on my life journey, it's so much more that I could have ever dreamed. I feel so fulfilled and so blessed and so honored and humbled to do this work in the world. And you know, it's not from me, it's through me. So I'm always learning, too. And learning how to reframe my own here and now journey too with it. It's just phenomenal, but we all have access to that.
ELISE:
I’m so grateful to call Laura a friend, in part because her light, and positivity, and the way she holds space for so many people who are suffering, it’s incredible, actually, to think about living a life of service where you are meeting people in their grief, and connecting them to the people who they’ve lost. Often tragically, or in a way that leaves hearts hurt, and seeking meaning, and wanting to be healed or whole. I think her books are both stunning. In The Light Between Us, which really explores…she’s particularly a conduit for children, as mentioned. And the death of a child can feel so terrible and senseless, that..not that she gives it meaning, because it’s so often meaningless. But this idea that they are connected and held in love and not alone is so powerful and healing. And as also mentioned, I love Laura’s central thesis, which is that we all have the ability to do this ourselves. Not only do we have the ability, but it’s incumbent on all of us, for any of us, who want to live in a co-creative way, to accept love and support, and to allow interventions that help us to our highest good. That way refine that language. And we she read for me, when I met her, in the months after Peter died, she told me, he told me, we will still talk, it will be in a different language. And it’s funny, because I resist talking to other mediums, or going out there in the world looking for constant assurance and reassurance, because I know I need to do this for myself. And in a way, if anyone channeled Peter I would feel a little disappointed in myself for not doing my job of staying connected and in constant communication with him. So, that’s something that really feeds my life and my soul and I feel as supported by him now as I ever did when he was still alive.